Burden of Proof
Burden of Proof is a True Crime Podcast run by two paralegals, who happen to be generations apart! Elysia (Gen X) and Savannah (Gen Z) met at their law firm, and discovered a lifelong bond and mutual love for true crime. Come with them as they tell each other a new case each week, and use their paralegal experience to breakdown the legalities of what happens when the criminals get caught!
Episodes

Thursday Mar 09, 2023
Case Number 30: The Lies, Addiction, and Murders of Alex Murdaugh
Thursday Mar 09, 2023
Thursday Mar 09, 2023
Who is the Murdaugh family and why are they all over the news, social media and Netflix? If you're like Elysia, you didn't know much other than it has something to do with murder. Savannah couldn't wait to share what she knows now that Alex Murdaugh was found guilty! So, we're flipping the script and giving you two weeks of Savannah episodes! Listen in as she shares what happens when the fabric of this much too powerful family begins to unravel.
Let us know what you think. Find us on Instagram and Facebook!
Sources:
SLED : South carolina Law Enforcement Department
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/25/us/murdaugh-murder-trial-timeline.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64794625
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64564568
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64645725
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64790627
Netflix: Murdaugh Murders
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Monday Mar 06, 2023
Case Number 29: Belle Gunness, Hell’s Princess: Part 2
Monday Mar 06, 2023
Monday Mar 06, 2023
If you didn't hold on to your butt during Part 1, be prepared to hold on now!! Join us for the finale episode of Savannah's black widow series and Part 2 to the twisted life of Belle Gunness, Hell's Princess. The lies, the murders, the affairs, and the accomplice! It's so much worse than Elysia could have predicted.
Let us know what you think. Find us on Instagram and Facebook!
Sources:
Schechter, Harold. Hell's Princess: The Mystery of Belle Gunness, Butcher of Men (p. 53). Kindle Edition.
Last Podcast on the Left
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Thursday Mar 02, 2023
Case Number 29: Belle Gunness, Hell’s Princess: Part 1
Thursday Mar 02, 2023
Thursday Mar 02, 2023
Hold on to your butt! Savannah begins winding up her black widow mini series with the one, the only, Belle Gunness. There's far more to Belle's life than just killing her husbands though! For example, Elysia is still asking "Where did she get all those children!?" and "How did NO ONE question all those people disappearing from her farm!?" She's hoping those questions get answered in Part 2. Stay tuned to find out!
Let us know what you think. Find us on Instagram and Facebook!
Sources:
Schechter, Harold. Hell's Princess: The Mystery of Belle Gunness, Butcher of Men (p. 53). Kindle Edition.
Last Podcast on the Left
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Thursday Feb 23, 2023
Case Number 28: Michael Drejka, The Handicap Parking Sheriff
Thursday Feb 23, 2023
Thursday Feb 23, 2023
What happened when the residents of Clearwater, Florida parked in the only handicap parking at the local convenience store? Michael Drejka happened. Tune in as Elysia covers this controversial case that practically has it all including a wannabe law enforcement officer, racial conflict, a justifiable use of force defense, a spicy trial, and audio clips of a police interview that left Savannah speechless.
Let us know what you think. Find us on Instagram and Facebook!
Sources:
https://law.justia.com/cases/florida/second-district-court-of-appeal/2021/19-4385.html
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/mcglockton-shooting-gun-owners-outraged/
https://www.courttv.com/trials/fl-v-drejka-2019/
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/STATUTES/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.06.html
https://abcnews.go.com/US/shooter-florida-stand-ground-case-charged-manslaughter/story?id=57151343
Sheriff's Press Conference- July 20, 2018- Shooting Investigation- Unincorporated Clearwater
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0782/Sections/0782.02.html#:~:text=782.02%20Justifiable%20use%20of%20deadly,History.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0776/Sections/0776.032.html
Sheriff's Press Conference- Follow-Up to Markeis McGlockton Shooting Investigation- July 31, 2018
Video shows Michael Drejka shoot Markeis McGlockton | 10News WTSP
Michael Drejka Police Interview Part 1
Michael Drejka Police Interview Part 2
Michael Drejka Police Interview Part 3
Full Michael Drejka sentencing
Autopsy of Markeis McGlockton released by the Pinellas County medical examiner
Search Pinellas County Criminal Records
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/what-is-permitless-carry-understanding-floridas-gun-laws-in-light-of-new-bill/2962434/
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Thursday Feb 16, 2023
Case Number 27: Louisa Lindloff, The Seeress Who Killed
Thursday Feb 16, 2023
Thursday Feb 16, 2023
In this second installment of black widow killers, accessorize your corset with a witches hat or cloak and look into the past through Louisa's crystal ball as Savannah talks of seances, predicted deaths and insurance fraud. Elysia gets hung up on all the narcissism and they both establish that you cannot gaslight science!
Let us know what you think. Find us on Instagram and Facebook!
Sources:
Mediumship
https://drvitelli.typepad.com/providentia/2021/05/the-murderous-medium-case.html
http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com/2011/09/louise-lindloff-black-widow-serial.html
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Thursday Feb 09, 2023
Case Number 26: The Jenny Jones Show Murder
Thursday Feb 09, 2023
Thursday Feb 09, 2023
If you've ever thought to yourself "How could 90's daytime talk shows get any worse?", but haven't heard of this case... buckle up! Elysia talks Savannah through the drama filled adventure of how one episode of The Jenny Jones Show ended in tragedy. It's got salacious tv, a murder with a gay panic defense, and a civil suit led by a showboat of an attorney.
Let us know what you think. Find us on Instagram and Facebook!
Sources:
Trial by Media on Netflix
https://www.courttv.com/title/judgment-with-ashleigh-banfield-mi-v-jonathan-schmitz/
https://www.courttv.com/title/5-amedure-v-jenny-jones-the-episode/
https://www.healthline.com/health/affective-disorders
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/lesser_crime#:~:text=Despite%20that%2C%20a%20jury%20cannot,guilty%20of%20the%20greater%20crime.
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/mi-court-of-appeals/1162141.html
https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Proximate+Cause
For more information on violence against the LGBTQ+ community or to find out how you can help visit:
https://avp.org/ncavp/
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Thursday Feb 02, 2023
Case Number 25: Louise Vermilya, The Woman Who Loved Death
Thursday Feb 02, 2023
Thursday Feb 02, 2023
Slap on a corset and travel back to the early 1900's with us as Savannah starts her 3 part series of black widow killers! Was Louise's strange fascination with death the reason for killing or was it the insurance money she truly loved? Savannah answers that and other ridiculous Elysia questions like "Wait... Was there air conditioning then?"
Let us know what you think. Find us on Instagram and Facebook!
Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Vermilya
https://murderpedia.org/female.V/v/vermilyea-louise.htm
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=SFC19111107.2.39&e=-------en--20--1--txt-txIN--------
https://images.chicagohistory.org/asset/144333/
https://morningcupofmurder.com/
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Thursday Jan 26, 2023
Case Number 24: The Murder of Laurie Show
Thursday Jan 26, 2023
Thursday Jan 26, 2023
While briefly home alone one early morning, 16 year old Laurie is brutally attacked. She survived just long enough for her mother to hear her last words. Did she in fact whisper the name of her killer as her mother claims? One thing is certain, the long history of stalking, bullying and assault by the accused did not help their case! Tune in as Elysia attempts to untangle the web of lies one suspect weaved and Savannah asks "WHAAATTT?!"
Let us know what you think. Find us on Instagram and Facebook!
Sources:
https://www.fox43.com/article/news/timeline-the-murder-of-laurie-show-trials-and-appeals-of-co-conspirators-lisa-michelle-lambert-tabitha-buck-and-lawrence-yunkin/521-f388b38d-493e-4ea6-af06-489eb58292cf
https://lancasteronline.com/features/yesteryear/history/infamous-murders-of-lancaster-county-the-laurie-show-case-was-in-the-headlines-for-years/article_9be40654-97b9-11eb-87ce-8334dfdd885e.html
https://www.wgal.com/article/tabitha-buck-released-from-prison-free-parole-murder-laurie-show-lisa-lambert/30108327
https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2000/12/12/movie-an-injustice-to-murdered-teen/
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-09-19-mn-36927-story.html
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F3/387/210/532544/
https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/LI/uconsCheck.cfm?txtType=HTM&yr=1993&sessInd=0&smthLwInd=0&act=0028.
The Killing of Laurie Show (Documentary) Pt 1
The Killing of Laurie Show (Documentary) Pt. 2
The Killing of Laurie Show (Documentary) Pt. 3
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Thursday Jan 19, 2023
Case Number 23: America’s KNOWN Child, AKA The Boy in the Box
Thursday Jan 19, 2023
Thursday Jan 19, 2023
Savannah's at it again! She has a knack for weaving a legal lesson through even when the case is unsolved! Even if you've heard the latest news on the Boy in the Box, tune in as Savannah also dives in to introduce the players that have been investigating this 60+ year mystery. She and Elysia also discuss Safe Haven Laws and the importance of all children having a viable and safe option as they grow up.
Let us know what you think. Find us on Instagram and Facebook!
Sources:
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/08/us/philadelphia-boy-in-box-thursday/index.html
http://www.vidocq.org/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnxfuvRHKDk&t=153s
"International Center for Unidentified & Missing Persons - 4UMPA"
"Who Is The Boy In The Box?"
4umpa.html
Resource on Safe Haven Laws:
https://lozierinstitute.org/safe-haven-laws-an-invitation-to-life/
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Thursday Jan 12, 2023
Case Number 22: Pamela Smart, The Media Sensation
Thursday Jan 12, 2023
Thursday Jan 12, 2023
The first criminal trial to be televised live in U.S. history. It's difficult to imagine anyone has not heard about this case! With two new generations having been too young or not yet born, it is possible though. Listen in as Elysia takes Savannah on this roller coaster of a case and trial. Buckle up! This case has everything! A marriage gone wrong, an especially icky affair, and conspiracy.
Let us know what you think. Find us on Instagram and Facebook!
Sources:
https://www.bu.edu/law/journals-archive/bulr/documents/bellin.pdf
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/09/15/juries-sentencing-ignorant-reform/
https://www.courttv.com/trials/nh-v-pamela-smart-1991/
https://www.seacoastonline.com/story/news/local/2021/02/03/judge-rejects-pamela-smarts-lawsuit-over-prison-punishment-morphine-drugs/4358637001/
An American Murder Mystery: Pamela Smart
Captivated: The Trials of Pamela Smart
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